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New Study Shows What Really Happened in the 2016 Election
Topic Started: Jun 19 2017, 02:25 PM (136 Views)
dr345
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1. The Democratic Party is not really divided on economics.

The ideological content of Sanders’s platform is not what drew voters. It was, instead, his counter-positioning to Clinton as a clean, uncorrupted outsider.

2. Fiscal conservative–social liberals are overrepresented.

The richest members of both parties have more economically conservative and socially liberal views than the poorest members.

3. Libertarians don’t exist.
Well, obviously, they exist — just not in any remotely large enough numbers to form a constituency. It’s not just hardcore libertarians who are absent. Even vaguely libertarian-ish voters are functionally nonexistent.

4. Trump won by dominating with populists.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/new-study-shows-what-really-happened-in-the-2016-election.html
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I'd argue 3 slightly. True, big "L" is not a political power -- but many so-called libertarians can't be distinguished from 2 -- socially permissive but fiscally conservative (or really self-interested). "Lower my taxes, but let me smoke pot if I want. I don't really care what other people do."

Pretty much agree with the rest, especially 1. The Dem side of the election was a referendum on Clinton the person, and various demographic "us" vs "them" not the overall platform.
Edited by nNeo, Jun 19 2017, 03:11 PM.
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So Hillary was just a sh*t candidate and it wasn't muh Russians?
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Jun 19 2017, 03:12 PM
So Hillary was just a sh*t candidate and it wasn't muh Russians?
They are still stuck in denial....

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There is much to absorb in this analysis especially when looking at the original data.

One quite obvious striking problem is that the report is based on voter surveys of trump voters and Clinton voters. However there were 8 million votes (6% of the total) that were cast for neither trump or Clinton.
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The whole thing is stupid...

Traditional Redistricting Principles: The U.S. Supreme Court considers the following as traditional principles, and plans must make a good-faith effort to follow them:
Compactness
Contiguity
Preservation of political boundaries (eg. town boundaries)
Preservation of communities of interest
Preservation of cores of prior districts
Protect of incumbents
In addition to these three principle requirements, any redistricting plan must comply with the Voting Rights Act of 1965. This act prohibits discriminating against the voting rights of racial or language minorities

The rules themselves lend to gerrymandering....
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I wouldn't be surprised if leftists blame Ronald Reagan for the loss to Trump.
CNN is ISIS.
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Jun 19 2017, 04:15 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if leftists blame Ronald Reagan for the loss to Trump.
An estimated 6.7 to 9.2 million Americans who voted for Obama switched to Trump in 2016, and the Democrats have no true understanding of why that happened. They have largely avoided serious introspection about their loss last November, let alone about the massive losses they accrued during Obama’s two terms in office. The result is Party-wide confusion and incomprehension that has manifested as seething anger, lashing out at anyone and everyone, and plowing forward with an agenda that the majority of the American people simply do not want.

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1. Hillary won but the EC appointed the position to Trump
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Jun 19 2017, 04:20 PM
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Jun 19 2017, 04:15 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if leftists blame Ronald Reagan for the loss to Trump.
An estimated 6.7 to 9.2 million Americans who voted for Obama switched to Trump in 2016, and the Democrats have no true understanding of why that happened. They have largely avoided serious introspection about their loss last November, let alone about the massive losses they accrued during Obama’s two terms in office. The result is Party-wide confusion and incomprehension that has manifested as seething anger, lashing out at anyone and everyone, and plowing forward with an agenda that the majority of the American people simply do not want.

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If so, then 12 million Romney voters switched to Hillary, because she got 3 million more votes than Trump
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Jun 19 2017, 04:29 PM
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Jun 19 2017, 04:20 PM
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Jun 19 2017, 04:15 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if leftists blame Ronald Reagan for the loss to Trump.
An estimated 6.7 to 9.2 million Americans who voted for Obama switched to Trump in 2016, and the Democrats have no true understanding of why that happened. They have largely avoided serious introspection about their loss last November, let alone about the massive losses they accrued during Obama’s two terms in office. The result is Party-wide confusion and incomprehension that has manifested as seething anger, lashing out at anyone and everyone, and plowing forward with an agenda that the majority of the American people simply do not want.

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If so, then 12 million Romney voters switched to Hillary, because she got 3 million more votes than Trump
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Jun 19 2017, 04:27 PM
1. Hillary won but the EC appointed the position to Trump
Ma Barker was so inept that she literally snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. It's all on her I am afraid.
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I see something different in the 2016 election....Many people are sick and tired of the establishment's controlled media trying to manipulate them to vote for their approved (most qualified) candidate.....I see a rising popular insurrection................ :popcorn:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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Jun 19 2017, 02:25 PM
1. The Democratic Party is not really divided on economics.

The ideological content of Sanders’s platform is not what drew voters. It was, instead, his counter-positioning to Clinton as a clean, uncorrupted outsider.

2. Fiscal conservative–social liberals are overrepresented.

The richest members of both parties have more economically conservative and socially liberal views than the poorest members.

3. Libertarians don’t exist.
Well, obviously, they exist — just not in any remotely large enough numbers to form a constituency. It’s not just hardcore libertarians who are absent. Even vaguely libertarian-ish voters are functionally nonexistent.

4. Trump won by dominating with populists.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/new-study-shows-what-really-happened-in-the-2016-election.html



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Edited by Colors, Jun 20 2017, 08:40 AM.
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Jun 19 2017, 04:27 PM
1. Hillary won but the EC appointed the position to Trump
http://unitedstates.com/topic/10072131/2/#post10052587

http://unitedstates.com/topic/10072131/2/#post10052807
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Libs are the same around the world....

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Jun 19 2017, 10:53 PM
Attaburnsinhell
Jun 19 2017, 04:27 PM
1. Hillary won but the EC appointed the position to Trump
Ma Barker was so inept that she literally snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. It's all on her I am afraid.
As much as it pains me this is 100% correct. Hilary discounted the level of hatred she engenders, she took for granted historically blue states and neglected Trump's biggest tool... the internet and data analytics. As an aside I also think we will see interesting developments regarding the Trump teams use of data analytics and exactly how they came into possession of that data.
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dr345
Jun 19 2017, 02:25 PM
1. The Democratic Party is not really divided on economics.

The ideological content of Sanders’s platform is not what drew voters. It was, instead, his counter-positioning to Clinton as a clean, uncorrupted outsider.

2. Fiscal conservative–social liberals are overrepresented.

The richest members of both parties have more economically conservative and socially liberal views than the poorest members.

3. Libertarians don’t exist.
Well, obviously, they exist — just not in any remotely large enough numbers to form a constituency. It’s not just hardcore libertarians who are absent. Even vaguely libertarian-ish voters are functionally nonexistent.

4. Trump won by dominating with populists.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/new-study-shows-what-really-happened-in-the-2016-election.html
what about the Russians? :dunno:
Tik is a Flat-Earther and so are all his friends.
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