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President Trump breaking up NAFTA.
Topic Started: Apr 20 2017, 11:24 PM (426 Views)
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Trump calls Canada's actions a 'disgrace'

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has met U.S. President Donald Trump's pointed criticism of Canada's dairy industry with calm counterarguments in defence of how Canada prefers to manage its milk.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-bloomberg-dairy-trump-1.4077625

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Dairy production is fragile because inputs and markets swing wildly. Making cars is, by comparison, a piece of cake. There is more involved here than just the price of milk. If nothing is done to stabilize the dairy market not only will prices swing wildly for a product that is important for family nutrition, the economies of rural areas and real estate values will crash as well. For these reasons, every advanced economy has some form of dairy market stabilization, the USA included.

The American system is one of price supports, a guaranteed minimum price for the producer. We spend billions on this each year. It often produces surpluses, resulting in the "free cheese" so hated by conservatives, as well as tons of powdered milk which the USA distributes to poor children around the world.

The Canadian system is much less burdensome on the taxpayer. It consists of balancing production with demand, producing stable prices. Those prices are higher than what we pay here but mean there are no government subsidies. Granted that a completely free dairy market will quickly crash in disaster, something has to be done. The Canadian system is more conservative, being market based rather than tax based through price supports. The downside is that when demand spiked, 75 American producers lost their access to the Canadian market.

Trump is making a big fuss over a complicated issue he doesn't really grasp.
Edited by George Aligator, Apr 21 2017, 04:19 PM.
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Trump is making his own fake news .......As we stated before , when you break down companies that you want to take over, the first thing you do is go after the foundation. Trump can easily break Canada.... Hell, there's nothing there... :biggrin:

Canada is a quiet place, with a bunch of liberals, running around, burying Canada in debate.

Pretty soon Trump can buy it......and it will be part of Trumpland.

Fake newsflash- Trump was speaking to Ryan and Pence, "won't be hard to invade Canada".... Putin wants Ukraine , maybe I can break Canada and take it !!"

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The fact that Trump has done one or two good things among the many, many monumentally bad things is hardly headline news. And saving a few dairy farmers make very little difference in the amount of damage that's already happened because of NAFTA. More empty promises from the tweeter in chief.
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Apr 22 2017, 04:50 PM
The fact that Trump has done one or two good things among the many, many monumentally bad things is hardly headline news. And saving a few dairy farmers make very little difference in the amount of damage that's already happened because of NAFTA. More empty promises from the tweeter in chief.
No.... NAFTA covers larger issues. You have to look at the big picture......Besides Canada has a snowflake as P.M. that has no idea what to do..... He has call in Uncle Bryan.



When Brian Mulroney came to power he was determined to build a new economic relationship with the United States which President Reagan was also in favour of. By the time the 1988 election was called, the Free Trade Agreement, FTA, had become the central election issue and one on which emotions ran high. John Turner, the Liberals and the NDP all claimed that by signing the FTA, Canada would be giving up large amount of sovereignty to the US, and would be slowly dominated by an influx of American money, influence and eventually control. Turner also claimed that unique social services such as Medicare would be in jeopardy and Canada would lose control of it's monetary policy.

Mulroney and the Conservatives argued that the economic benefits to be gained by creating a North American Free Trade bloc would more then compensate for any negative impact evolving trade would have. Mulroney tried to reassure the electorate that social programs would be safe, Canadian identity would be safe and the natural resources of the country would be used to benefit Canadians.

The debate between the leaders, during the election, were highly charged and confrontational. The Conservatives won he election with a majority of seats but they did not receive a majority of the vote which revealed a highly split national opinion. The FTA bill was passed by the Conservatives but the extension of it to Mexico an the long process of ratification did not see the final version emerge until the 1990's and when Jean Chretien became Prime Minister, rather then cancel or renegotiate the agreement, he added two additional agreements.

The final agreement was ratified by the US Congress on November 17th, 1993 by 34 votes in the House and 23 votes in the Senate. The agreement took effect on January 1, 1994 and many of the catastrophic events predicted by its opponents have failed to materialize while some of the difficulties anticipated have emerged. The black and white question framed by Turner and Mulroney, in the end, turned out to be one of shades of grey with generally more benefits then costs.

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http://www.canadahistory.com/sections/eras/pcs%20in%20power/NAFTA.html

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Trump Claims America Should Never Have Given Canada Its Independence :biggrin:

President Trump is looking at taking over Canada, and make Canada build the Southern Wall the reason for breaking NAFTA.....


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http://www.burrardstreetjournal.com/trump-canada-independence-was-mistake/



U.S. announces new tariffs targeting Canada’s lumber industry


By Caitlin Dewey

April 25 at 7:15 PM 

The White House launched a rhetorical fussilade against its close ally and neighbor Tuesday, accusing Canada of “rough” trade practices which have hurt American workers and farmers.

The anti-Canada invective — reinforced by U.S. announcements of sweeping tariffs on Canadian lumber imports — has few parallels in modern history and brought an immediate rebuke from the other side of the border, triggering fears of a trade war between two major economies.

In a sharp privot from his criticism of China and Mexico for their trade practices, President Trump suggested that Canada’s benign image was deceptive, and that the country’s policies were damaging and unfair to the United States.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/us-announces-new-tariffs-targeting-canadas-lumber-industry/2017/04/25/32aa36ac-29f6-11e7-b605-33413c691853_story.html?utm_term=.17ea66d696fc
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